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Okay, so recently I met quite a lot of new people due to moving away and studying and such, and getting to know people is interesting. And I don't just mean their names and likes and stuff, but the way those people are. I talked with a few, had debates on principles and came to a conclusion that I find weird. And I don't even know how to put it. Okay, so let me try...

A lot of those people I know (at least 90% I'd guess) have a lot of things they "just don't find interesting" or "don't care about". And they have lots of things they don't care about.
And now my question is simple: How can that be? How can you find anything too boring or beneath you to care about it or think that you could find it interesting? How can you say "physics is boring"? Because it's a huge subject! You can't ever really grasp all of it, so how can you just say "It's not interesting?".

Phew, this is really hard to put into words. :/

Anyway, it's just, there's NOT ONE THING that I don't care about or which I couldn't care about. I've thought long and hard about it, and I haven't found one.

When we talked about it, they all shrugged off so many things which I liked or said found interesting as boring, it just puzzled me.

They don't care about this, they don't care about that.

I find this very weird. And now I ask myself, it is unusual or something to find pretty much everything interesting on some level?

Uhm, so did any of you at least understand my thought? xD They're such gibberish...



On a totally unrelated note: Only two more day till the skijumping season starts! Yaaaay~! ♥

Date: 2009-11-23 10:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angrylogic.livejournal.com
Hmm, that's actually a very curious argument. I think, in my own experience, it's not that I find subjects such as physics boring in themselves, but I find the way in which they are presented and taught mind-numbingly dull. And there are actually plenty of things that I don't care about, but it's not as though I don't care about them because they have no interest for me. It's more that I looked into them, found them to be of no significance and then didn't look into them any further. For a person to say "I find physics boring" without knowing the slightest thing about it is what I find a bit annoying. The same can be applied to any subject - if I'm going to slag something, I should at least know what it is in detail that I am going to slag(because like I said, there is a multitude of things I really couldn't give a shit about, and these are the things that mostly everyone else is pissing themselves silly over).

Date: 2009-11-24 12:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ai-chi.livejournal.com
"Is it me or the others?"

Wenns nur du bist, bin ichs aber auch XD
Zumindest teilweise. Ich verurteile Themen zumindest ned von Anfang an. Ich hörs mir an und dann "Okay, interessiert mich ned."
Was ich aber viiiel schlimmer finde, ist, das so direkt zu sagen. Als Beispiel, eine Freundin von mir. Sie reden von Fußball, was mich so gnadenlos gar nicht interessiert. Sie weiß das auch, sie erzählt trotzdem und ich hör auch zu.
Aber als ich mal erzählte "Ich hab mir gestern Ghost Rider" angeguckt kam nur "Ghost Rider? Interessiert mich nich." Ohne zu wissen worums geht, ohne vielleicht irgendeine Absicht mal zu hören, wie ICH den Film fand o.ä. Sie muss sich ja nicht drum kümmern, aber ich finde, man kann zuhören. V.a. wenn ich mir Fußball anhöre XD
Verstehst du was ich meine? kA Ob deine Leute das da auch so gemeint haben, aber dieses krasse "interessiert mich nich" is für mich mehr ein "ich interessier mich nich für dich" und sie wollen nur ihre Themen loswerden. Ich unterstell den jetzt nix, klang nur so XD

Date: 2009-11-25 10:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] urania-chan.livejournal.com
Ja, das kenne ich auch, es passiert mir vor allem in letzter Zeit ständig (wenn ich über Maskenbildnerei zugeschwallt werde) und ich finde es furchtbar kränkend. :/

Date: 2009-12-02 08:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ai-chi.livejournal.com
Jepp, finde ich auch =(
Zumal man sich dann denkt "Wozu jetzt meine Zeit??"

Date: 2009-12-03 07:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] urania-chan.livejournal.com
Aber was zu sagen, gegen das Verhalten, is mir dann auch zu blöd... :/

Date: 2009-12-06 08:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ai-chi.livejournal.com
Ebenso!
Ich habe das Gefühl, andere Leute maulen ständig rum wenn ich zu schnell spreche, zu langsam spreche, zuviele spreche (etc etc pp xDDD), maulen rum was ich richtig machen soll, maulen rum wenn ich ÜBERHAUPT was machen soll xD usw ... Aber wenn jemand anders sich daneben benimmt oder was falsch macht, denke ich mir nur "Douchebag" oder "Ich hätts jetzt soundso gemacht" und bin schön still =(
Etwas, was ich mir definitiv abgewöhnen sollte ...

Date: 2009-12-06 11:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] urania-chan.livejournal.com
Ja, kenn ich, und dann schluckt man seine ganze Wut runter und das kann irgendwie auch nicht die Lösung sein. :(

Date: 2009-12-06 11:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ai-chi.livejournal.com
Kenn ich nur zu gut =( Ein Problem was ich gerade versuche, an mir selbst zu lösen. Wenn andre mich immer ankotzen und ich dann auf dem Heimweg heulen muss, is das keine Lösung. Ich muss lernen, andren zu sagen, wenn sie unverschämt sind! Nich einfach, das =(

Date: 2009-12-07 08:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] urania-chan.livejournal.com
Ja. :/ Ich denke mir aber auch oft, nur weil die anderen Arschlöcher sind, muss ich mich ja nicht auch noch so benehmen... es ist fast eine Zwickmühle. :(

Date: 2009-12-15 11:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ai-chi.livejournal.com
Ist es ;_; Andere Leute müssen mich dann aushalten, wenn ich zu Hause rumzicke *lol*
Eigentlich wärs genial wenn man gefühlloser wär. Einfach nich nachdenken, wenn einen was nerven, random Leute anpöbeln, sich gut fühlen. Aber schon dass du sagen klingt so dermaßen nicht-ich, dass ichs nicht will >__

Date: 2009-12-16 06:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] urania-chan.livejournal.com
Dito, ich maule dann auch immer Unschuldige an... :/
Nee, so sein ist bestimmt auch scheiße. :/ It's a lose-lose situation! D:

Date: 2009-12-27 05:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ai-chi.livejournal.com
Aber echt mal D= Am besten bleiben wir eh so wie wir sind. Das ist perfekt und wird auch in Zukunft noch perfekt sein =D

Date: 2009-11-24 10:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] isegrim-chan.livejournal.com
Interesting debate! It kind of reminds me of the music taste disuccion (i.e. Simple Plan sucks now VS Simple Plan used to make music I liked better).

I thought about it a while and try to explain my explanation: :D Weird sentence...

I see it like that:
Saying "I don't find it interesting." or "I don't care." is an easy way to change the subject.
I don't think people generally mean it like that. They just want to talk about something they can talk more about.
It's just a way of saying "I have no real knowledge about that and since I don't want to look dumb, let's talk about something else!"

And some people also have reasons like: "I won't get it anyway, it's so complicated." or "Why should I know about that, I won't need it anyway." The first ones are just covering up self-sonsciousness and the others ignorance.

And there is also the matter of taste and people's will to talk about their favourites (because we are all a little bit self-centered ;P). I.e.: person A loves science fiction movies - the person B Rosamunde Pilcher-dramas. And suppose they both go "Ewww, noooo. Change the subject before he/she jumps in my face with that stuff!" :P

And some things just never interested people as such because someone might have "ruined" it for them (a boring teacher, for example). A spark and then they'd probably be all over it.)

Does this make sense?

Date: 2009-11-25 10:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] urania-chan.livejournal.com
Vielleicht mache ich mir über manche Sachen einfach zu viele Gedanken...

Aber deine Erklärung find ich auch die plausibelste, also ja, es macht Sinn. :)
Ich finde es aber trotzdem schade, dass manche so sind. :/ Und wenn sie so über viele Sachen denken, kann ich sie nur noch bemitleiden, was sie alles verpassen.

Date: 2009-11-26 11:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] isegrim-chan.livejournal.com
Ich glaube auch. :) Das kostet nur Energie.

Besser Mitleid als so was Anstrengendes wie Verärgerung. ;D

Date: 2009-11-24 01:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whatthefuckbenj.livejournal.com
Ich denk mal grad so Sachen wie Physik finden viele langweilig weil sie einfach nicht das nötige Grundverständnis & -wissen mitbringen (Kann mich da sehr gut hineinversetzten *g*)

Aber hat denn nicht jeder einfach Dinge die ihn nicht interessieren? Kann sich ja schließlich nicht jeder für alles interessieren..

Date: 2009-12-14 05:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sixtht.livejournal.com
Omg, I totally missed this post :S

Anyway, I understand what you mean completely, but I partly understand those people too. I agree with what darth_funk wrote - it's not really that physics is boring itself, but the way it's presented definitely is. Before reading this, I never actually thought of it that way, for me it was something so abstract and incomprehensible that I simply didn't bother with it more than I was forced to. The way they present it to us in school is just stupid - a bunch of formulas you MUST learn, because you MUST get good grades, because you MUST be good at school and so on. Maybe it's the MUST that bothers us and makes all the subjects sort of repulsive, although they might not be - but we just don't see that. Maybe they should teach us only the stuff we actually need in everyday life and make us WANT to learn it, because we would know it's good for us. But (at least at our school) we keep learning things that we know we'll never need again, and forget them immediately after an exam or something. That's just sad :(

What bothers me as well is that some people think like this about everything. A perfect example is my mum: she doesn't care about anything, it's meaningless to bother about anything, blablabla. She keeps asking me what difference does it make if Hilde's (sorry, a stupid example XD) good at a competition or what's in it for me and so on. Like there HAS to be something in it for me directly, it's just something that makes your day a little less dull or gives you some inspiration that hard work does pay off, ... If you don't care about anything, why should you even bother breathing, maybe the best thing to do would be just to die - than you'll never have to care again :S

So, I think it's not you, there are just two kinds of people in this world - those who don't give a crap about anything and those who find joy in little things, which make them happy - and even if it's for an hour only, I think it's worth it. So you just keep caring ;D We love you that way :)

Date: 2009-12-14 05:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sixtht.livejournal.com
Oh, btw: YAY FOT HE SKI JUMPING :DDDD Though our boys aren't doing so well :( (except the prefect BER in Kuusamo ♥)

Date: 2009-12-14 10:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] urania-chan.livejournal.com
People who think like that abo$ut everything are an extreme case... :/ I just don't get that, it can't be very fun.
I actually like it a whole lot better the way you said, when you can be glad about little things. I'm a lot more like that, too. :)

The MUST is indeed a problem, but I wouldn't know how to solve this. :/

Aww, thank you! xD

YAY INDEED! I will not lose hope. ;) BER proved that he isn't bad all of the time. :)

Date: 2009-12-26 05:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sixtht.livejournal.com
Of course, but there are people who seem to complain almost about everything and are not pleased with anything etc., ... That's good for you if you don't get that, it only shows you're not like them :)

Me neither :/ I guess we're all facing this problem but nobody knows how to solve it :S Maybe the whole thing would be a lot better if they wouldn't go in details that much and want us to know everything they say :S

No problem! ;)

OH NO HE'S NOT BAD ALL THE TIME!!!! Two words: ENGELBERG; SUNDAY ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ XD

Date: 2010-01-01 03:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] urania-chan.livejournal.com
And today, he was 8th which isn't so bad either. :) (But Tom didn't even qualify! Poor Puppy! D:)

Date: 2010-01-01 07:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sixtht.livejournal.com
Ufff, Norwegians were GREAT today (okay, except Roar)!!! :D Such a pleasure to see the Norwegian flags in the top 10 XD
(PUPPY XD (sorry, I still find it sooo funny XD) I keep wondering what is going on in his head - it's pretty obvious the problem is in there - he showed in Engelberg (on Saturday) that he has the fitness to be back on top, but he keeps being so inconsistent it's just painful to watch D:)

Date: 2010-01-02 09:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] urania-chan.livejournal.com
And the Werner Schuster (the super nice and awesome German coach! :D) kept saying "The Norwegians have to be our role model! After being so bad they pulled theirselves together and made very good jumps!" They're being appreciated! :D
(But they are like puppies, the whole bunch! xD It has to be the nerves... He tried to hard and really wants to succeed, so he puts himself under preasure but that's what makes him fail. :/ This is my theory for a lot of jumpers. Because on the other hand, look at Schlieri. He seems like an overexcited (you guessed it) puppy who's just like "Yeah, jumping! Hopp, hopp! :D".

Date: 2010-01-16 01:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sixtht.livejournal.com
Your coach really is awesome if he says things like that XD But they're back at sucking by now ... :/ Did you see Tom in Kulm (sunday, second round)??? He looked SO sad, like he was going to cry any minute :((((((( Just makes you want to hug him tight and not let him go until Zakopane :((
He does seem so excited all the time, maybe that is the problem :/ But how do you solve that? :S

Date: 2010-01-27 09:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] urania-chan.livejournal.com
Tom sadly continues being bad. :/ But at least he was nominated for Olympia...
There is no solution. xD

Date: 2010-02-07 12:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sixtht.livejournal.com
WOHO, and now he's back. In style :DDDD I'm sooo happy for him ♥ Just in time for the Olympics :)

Date: 2010-02-10 05:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] urania-chan.livejournal.com
Oh yes! :D Me too, it's just so nice to see! :) And now let's hope that... I don't know, it stays this way? *crosses fingers*

Date: 2009-12-26 05:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sixtht.livejournal.com
Omg, I totally forgot to ask *___* Did you find some other place to live?? How are things with that?

Date: 2010-01-01 03:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] urania-chan.livejournal.com
I still haven't found anything! D: And my future-flatmates are assholes and don't call back! D: Argh. It almost seems if I have to start anew once more... -.-

Date: 2010-01-01 07:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sixtht.livejournal.com
Awwww, that's too bad ... Maybe you should bug them until they would call :D Hope everything works out (but keep us/me informed, okay??)

Date: 2010-01-02 07:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] urania-chan.livejournal.com
I tried and at least both wrote me a SMS today, stating "Yes, we still want to live together", but I'm really running out of time. As soon as I'm back in Berlin, I'll try and talk to them, and if it seems like it will take to long, I'll just have to rent a tiny flat for myself... (I will! :))

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